#61 - Inspiring people in social media - how to find them

Summary

"Social media has changed the game. Don't use it as a way to waste time. Use it as a way to surround yourself with people that in any other time in history you would have been unable to reach." - Tom Bilyeu

Both Emil and Erik are constantly looking for new ways to learn and grow. Social media and more specifically Youtube has been an endless source of inspiration. With countless of hours of videos and podcasts, we have found our favorite people to learn from and be influenced by.

In this episode we will dive in to our favourite teachers within:

• Social skills
• Health
• Sex
• Spirituality
• Business
• Creativity

and what we have learned from them.

Today's episode is a personal development episode, where Erik and Emil explore topics about how to grow as a person.

We are both personal development junkies and spend many hours every week sharing our ideas and reading about new things. This episode is great for you who want to learn about our latest perspective. We share lots of personal stories, talk about how it applies in our lives and where we have learned it from.

We start this episode by exploring the questions "What would you have changed in your upbringing?" This is one of Emil's favourite questions to ask and it opens up a lot of interesting perspectives.

From there we move on to exploring the role models that we've had from social media.

Transcript

[00:00:51] How to find inspiring people on social media. And who are the people who have inspired us the most from the last couple of years?

[00:01:03] Well, we learned the most from social media has changed the game. It could be used as a waste of time. But you can also use it as a way to surround yourself with people that previously in history you would haven't had any chance to get close to whatsoever. I just love thinking about it that way. I know it's such an opportunity. Yeah. You wouldn't even have heard of them.

[00:01:30] No. I mean, imagine if you were some guy long time ago, like food.

[00:01:35] I wanted my dinner table. You can kind of get like Aristotle or not.

[00:01:41] I was going to say Donald Trump, but you can still get as good. Either way, I'm here with e-mail.

[00:01:49] My very good friend, the host of the become a great podcast. Com Great. Come on, girls. Important. And yeah, the first guy joining them integrate dot com. How are you today?

[00:02:02] I am feeling excited about this episode because I really want to share these people that I have influenced me the most and formed me into the person that I am today.

[00:02:14] And the person I'm sitting next to is is a role model in a sense, not a social media. Now, Eric is a good personal friend to me. He's the founder of Great Dot com. And you're listening to this. As we said, they're becoming great dot com. And the purpose of this and why we're doing this is to inspire you.

[00:02:36] Who wants to make the world or just your own life better through entrepreneurship and personal development?

[00:02:45] Yay! Let's dive into this. Let's do it. One question that I know that you like. Answer it.

[00:02:52] Asking people is, what would you have changed in your upbringing? What's up with that question?

[00:03:02] What would you have changed about the way that you grew up? I. Like that question, because it.

[00:03:11] It gives someone an opportunity to talk about something that maybe was difficult for them or challenging. And if someone is willing to open up about that, I think that is a great way to connect with someone to bond. And I often find when I ask that question that that is leading to something that maybe they want more of in their life. So let's say someone was lacking something.

[00:03:39] Maybe now they're looking to get their thing the way it feels like an. Pretty gentle way of asking a very deep question like you can't give someone opportunity to talk about deep pain without necessarily seeing what's been painful in your childhood. Yeah. And you can kind of open that box anyway.

[00:04:01] And if to say no, I wouldn't have changed anything then I can switch to. So what did you appreciate the most about the way you're sure you can say it's a way to get to know someone? What's the common answer?

[00:04:14] A common answer.

[00:04:18] It's so different. I don't think I've gotten on the same answer twice. That's also the only count as I've gotten more than once this. I wouldn't change anything.

[00:04:28] I can't imagine. And then I'm thinking, well, I would change stuff. So what would you have changed about your upbringing? So.

[00:04:40] I asked, asking that question to myself. Have given me some clarity because none of my parents are from Stockholm, the city where I live right now. And both of them moved here and they met each other. They fell in love. I came. Unexpected. And then they moved out to suburbs of Stockholm and they were living as this core family. Right. The friends they met was kind of neighbors or other parents.

[00:05:05] So they didn't really choose their inner circle and were. I wasn't surrounded by so many more grown ups than my parents. So when you say didn't choose their inner circle, they kind of just became their inner circle. They were neighbors. They didn't really look for new friends. Yeah. Just stumbled upon them. Yeah. They weren't looking for role models. So.

[00:05:29] My parents, I love them. They're beautiful, such good parents. And as old people, they're not the complete right hand. So there are some things my dad, for example, is very good at. And there are some things he hasn't put so much energy in. So I would really have liked to be surrounded by more male role models that could teach me things. That wasn't his area of interest. Yeah, that makes sense, for example, that could be either more masculine traits or maybe some more spiritual traits.

[00:06:01] Yeah. OK, so you could let's say you could change that I was gay, let's say you had an upbringing. Now how? Let's say you could go back in time. Yeah. You're not really going back. You're going back an H. You know, you're 12 years old, but you're still born in 20. Well, it's still the year 2020. Yeah. So what would you do today if you know that you are lacking those role models? Would you turn to social media to find them?

[00:06:26] Let's put it this way. If I was a parent and I saw that my kid had an interest in something that wasn't my area of expertise. If there wasn't good people around him, then maybe I could guide my child, too. Can you look on the Internet? Maybe on YouTube? Can you find someone that is having those traits? I would have like that guidance when I was a kid. If the Internet's Internet would have been around.

[00:06:51] I'm old. At least YouTube wasn't around. No. You didn't find many mentors on YouTube in the year 2000? No.

[00:07:00] So may I switch focus to you? Yeah. So why and when and how did you kind of start to find role models on social media and the Internet?

[00:07:13] If I'm going back in answering the same question that you got, like what did I miss, I can see that I would have loved to have more grown ups around me to learn from as well. I'm basically just surrounded by my my parents so I could really see the value of having more role models in different topics. And I don't think I ever really started looking for role models online. I didn't think that I didn't go out to find inspiring people. I think I. Stumbled upon them. Or other people told me, you really should check this person out. I think the first one actually our friend's spirit, who works with Great as well. He recommended me to look into Tony Robbins. That's like two years ago. I didn't really look into anything before that. I would say I haven't really been following any podcasts. I haven't been followings, anyone on social channels in general. And he sent me some really old clips of Tony Robbins from YouTube. And I think. There were like six hours long and pure gold here, I, I felt like.

[00:08:31] Huh? There is a gold mine here. I didn't know about this one.

[00:08:35] And I think that was the first time I realized the potential of. Even role models. I don't think the. Looking back, I've been pretty narcissistic in my life and felt that I don't need any heroes. I'm better than anyone else. And just the realization of getting older and seeing, like, while I can learn so much from other people. Yes.

[00:08:58] Well, you should have people that are better than you in all areas of your life that you want to be good at. Yes. Do you think you're good at something? You should know someone that is better, otherwise you're probably not that good. You will definitely benefit from it. Yeah. If you haven't taken the time to find out what it benefits from it.

[00:09:15] And and I hadn't done that. And this was it became an eye opening moment for me to see that there is so much I can learn. I mean, I've always been always been looking for ways to learn, but mainly been teaching myself in various ways. So I think that was the first one.

[00:09:34] Tony Robbins and these old videos on YouTube will link them in the description. I said that was the first one I started looking up to and started learning from.

[00:09:50] What's the first one you started learning from?

[00:09:56] First, let's say area where I found role models was in the area of health. Today, I'm a nurse, big health nurse.

[00:10:06] I've spent three thousand hours at least like researching health online. And I love it. And I'm having so much fun. And yet, the first one I've found in health that I really felt like it benefited from was the bulletproof guy, Dave Astbury, his name. He invented putting buttering your coffee and invented putting butter in your coffee.

[00:10:30] Yeah, well, I realized that that that's what he did in college. I bet. Sam boy, did you invent. Yeah, I took a piece of butter. I took a cup of coffee. I put it. You get it. Isn't that invention to take two ideas and you combine them? Yeah, maybe it doesn't sound very miraculous. It's miraculous to spread it. Well, so. But his perspective was is.

[00:10:53] How can I think about health not only in a way to prevent disease? And that's really bad over weight. And that really bad things happen for you. He was thinking of health as how can I eat and make decisions when it comes to my nutrition that will cost me to perform at my peak. Mentally and physically. And at the time, I was playing poker professionally for a living. So I was competing all day, every day. And every decision I made, the quality of it had an impact on my salary, of course. So this became hugely relevant for me.

[00:11:35] Ok, so the difference here was. You had been thinking about health as.

[00:11:41] As long as I'm healthy, that's good enough. And most things talked about health is about not being unhealthy. Yeah. And this was the first time you realized it could go the other way around. Yeah, I could actually turn myself even better. Yeah. It's like if you're a car before you were thinking the important thing is not to put in, like, bad gasoline in it. Hmm. And now you realize, hey, there's also something called like Noss.

[00:12:07] Let me make you go super fast. I want to drive Formula One. Yeah, I can see that.

[00:12:12] So that was my first one.

[00:12:15] And that had a big change on my in my energy. And that had a spillover effect to with more energy. I had more time to do more research and more awake hours everyday. And that was mainly YouTube. Then I found a speech with him like a one hour one on YouTube. Wow, this is brilliant. And then I listened to a hundred podcast episodes. So something. Hey, he's got the bulletproof podcast or it's bulletproof radio on radio, so we're in to use different experts within different health areas. Which one was the first Romoaldo you found?

[00:12:54] It says at first one was Tony. Definitely. That was the first one that I kind of stumbled upon. And.

[00:13:04] Well, he he he spoke a lot about emotions and emotional intelligence and social intelligence. He spoke about how to change your state, like if you're feeling low and feeling low on energy. The main thing you can do or the first thing you can do is like change your body posture and you could change what you're eating. But that takes longer. But just changing your body posture, move around a little bit. Smile.

[00:13:25] And I started learning all these little tricky life hacks that you could apply and how to do that. And in this video is also spoken about, I embrace all your emotions, which are things that I truly believe in today that I didn't really think about before, that he says that all emotions are messages. So if you're feeling bad or heavy emotions somehow, if that's shame or guilt or if it's anger. They're all messages to you about something that you would benefit from changing in your life or something you would benefit from learning. And before I just thought about, well, good and bad emotions in a sense, I don't want to feel the bad ones. And now, thanks to Tony, I felt like, OK, I want to learn from them rather than anything else. And after Tony. I started exploring more.

[00:14:25] I just want to add that those teachings are very they're very spiritual teachings to me. How you embrace your whole emotional spectrum, for example. But he kind of disguises those spiritual teachings in the body of this huge, like, super masculine guy, which probably made a dress innate. Would you more from where you are in your life? It probably resonates a lot with young men, for example. Yeah, I really don't like the word spiritual. Yes, it does. You wouldn't have you would have shut off instantly this personal development to use it to have more energy. I may be more powerful in your life than those same spiritual teachings resonates with you then? Yeah.

[00:15:09] Yeah. I mean, to me, whenever even when you say the word spiritual, I shut off a little bit.

[00:15:14] Mm hmm. I really don't like hard work. It's just probably it's two sides of the same coin. And for me, emotions is something very natural. That's something that's part of my body is part of me. While spiritual to me is some kind of a hippy word that. I don't really understand. It doesn't resonate with me at all. Very little Lisa. So, yeah, that's a good point. It takes the same kind of message, but in a different way.

[00:15:46] I think that's the power of the Internet now, because now you can learn the same concept to different vehicles. And you could change your teacher 50 years ago, like if you were lucky enough to have someone as good as Tony near you, you couldn't you couldn't change. No. I mean, that person, like so many different people, are teaching the same key concepts. Yeah.

[00:16:09] I mean, before you had one teacher who was in your village or maybe you had preferred hopefully one good teacher in school or whatnot. Yeah. Because of the word spirituality does not resonate with me. But I know that's a big part of what you started finding online. What was it from the spiritual teachers that you've been looking into?

[00:16:36] I like divert. There's some cozy feeling to it for me and for me, it basically means everything that is real, but that you can't touch, like, emotions or thoughts. How you deal with them. And even that's ideas like there's something bigger out there. Who knows? But it's a cause. I like to think about it. Yeah, we're very different in that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Who are.

[00:17:02] How did you stumble on this? Because I guess the word spirituality came from social media for you as well.

[00:17:06] Oh yeah. It really started very old school with a teacher I very much like to this day.

[00:17:15] His name is Natoli and I started reading his book when I was 22 maybe. And the book X and his Teachings is all about the ego and how the ego works. And what's the ego? Ego is. An identity that things we identify with in our minds and the stories we tell about ourselves. It's a big concept. Yeah. One way I'm thinking about the IEG. I've read the book a long time ago. It's just the voice in my head. It's like the first thing I would think about when I hear the word. So, yeah, what I'm thinking basically.

[00:17:56] Yeah. And that voice can be serving you and that voice can be unproductive. And his books and his teachings is showing how the voice in our head can be used against us basically. And I was reading this and every shaft was okay. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I realized that. Wow, maybe 90 percent of thoughts. I think it's not only repetitive and unnecessary, but some of them are directly harmful to my psychological well-being. Okay. You found out that the way you're thinking is probably not beneficial for you. Exactly. And ego. I never thought about this. Thoughts like that. No, because the reason why is because ego can only exist in a state of unconsciousness. So once you become aware that you're doing those self-defeating things, that it's no longer ego.

[00:18:51] Let's see if I can paraphrase that. OK, is it the voice in your head? Is only ego. If you're not aware of that, it's going around. Yeah. So if you're listening to your thoughts, like, hey, now I'm hearing myself saying that I'm big, fat and ugly. And I'm aware of it than it's thought. And so if I'm not aware of it, just my ego.

[00:19:13] Yes. So if you if you see that sort happening and sing. I see those thoughts, but maybe that is not me, then that is your awareness. Looking at the thought. But if you are thinking the same thoughts. Yeah. I am big, fat and ugly. Then that would be identified. Your mind is creating. That might not be serving you.

[00:19:36] And if you have awareness that this is happening, then you can choose more helpful thoughts.

[00:19:42] Okay, that makes sense. Okay. Okay, Toli was from a book then.

[00:19:46] Did you start looking at him on YouTube then? I did. Cause he had a 10 part series with Oprah Winfrey that I liked. That was a nice combination because he's like this old superstitious German guy had been the contrast with her. I liked that. I saw some public speeches with him as well. And the thing in both spirituality and in health is that.

[00:20:07] You progressed through different mentors on your path. So you learned something from one mentor and then you are. I think you kind of become ready as a person. And then.

[00:20:21] The algorithms or whatever higher powers is out there puts you in front of a new teacher.

[00:20:28] Ok, so we have to translate that into reading books, for example.

[00:20:33] You start by reading children's books and then you need a certain easy language to understand. After a while, you've kind of gotten the idea of what a children's book can teach you and you're ready to read more sophisticated things with a trickier language or a deeper meaning or more colorful characters or whatever. Exactly. You need once you take on a topic like health, the more you know, the more you can learn. And the same thing was.

[00:21:00] Exactly. So in health, I started with that. They've asked Bragi now I'm been interested in right now and following a guy on YouTube that I really like. His name is Dr. Eric Berg. I'm inspired by. We're both inspired by guy is called David Sinclair. That is talking about how to stay young.

[00:21:17] Yeah. And how to live longer. And that's a progression. Yeah, that makes sense. It's. Yeah, since David Sinclair talks about, like, very detailed things that wouldn't be very interesting to someone who haven't studied the topic before.

[00:21:34] Right. Do you need the basic concepts? So that's why I think Natoli is a very good introduction to spirituality. Because it's simple. I think he lays a lot of ground understanding of how the ego works. So if you're unaware that you have this voice in your head that might not be helping you if you're completely unaware of that. You totally identify with every thought that is coming up in your mind, then that's a very good base to understand that that is going on. I would say, okay. And then with that base, you can move on to more order teachers.

[00:22:14] Ok. So where did you move on after Eckhart Tolle them? Well, I have two ones that I really like. One is called Teil Swan. I've been following her for many years. You can find her on YouTube. I like spiritual teachers on YouTube in general, because you can hear them speak, right, so their personalities comes through. It creates like this sitting around a fireplace kind of feeling. So I think she's very good. She's specialized mainly, I would say, in relationships and how to deal with trauma. So I used her teachings a lot, too. I didn't have a super difficult upbringing or anything, but I used her teachings to those things that were traumatic to heal them. Under assault, that has been the. When I come into situations that previously would trigger me and caused me to react with emotions I didn't quite understand. I have used those emotions as triggers to become more aware that this is not happening because of what's in front of me right now. It's happening because of something that happened to me previously.

[00:23:25] Ok, so you have used her teachings to better understand yourself and like, what is it in your childhood, for example, that makes you react in a certain way then when something happens? Exactly. Being able to thanks to things that she has taught you is you understand yourself better and can choose better to how to react in a situation where you might have been very stressed previously. Now you understand what it was that caused that stress and you've been able to stay calmer.

[00:23:56] Exactly. So if you're listening to this is someone that is often overreacting and invade you. I'm showing quote marks right now because I think that no reaction is really an overreaction. It's a reflection on what is going on inside of you and what might have happened to you before. But if something small is happening and you have this huge reaction that that might have to do with things in your past. Not only what is in front. And then I think she's a very good teacher.

[00:24:23] Ok, so someone who might get very angry easily. Where exactly. Size of the anger doesn't seem proportional to the thing that happens, sadly or super afraid.

[00:24:33] If you suspect that someone might be leaving you and I might have to do something other than. Yes, this person can see that. OK. And I want to.

[00:24:46] Finish on my favorite teacher of all before we switch out of the spirituality topic.

[00:24:53] And this is my biggest role model out of all.

[00:24:58] If I had to pick one, I would pick him. This is not a beginner teacher. It's a spiritual teacher. So if you're not familiar with the area, you might struggle to understand. But his name is Matt Kohn, and we'll link to a link to all of this below. His name is Matt Kohn. He's a American spiritual teacher who's doing long improvised speeches on YouTube. So sits down and he talks for one hour, one half hour.

[00:25:27] And he's really funny. He's really funny. Yeah, I'm super loving. He learned like this. Very weird. Like this cuddly bear bear.

[00:25:36] But to me, he's on another level spiritually. And when I sit down, it's like it's like my whole psyche gets massaged. And he's talking about different topics. His spirituality. But in a more in a new and creative way. Always. And he's always focusing on how to be as loving as possible. And I think that is very important on a spiritual path. At least I was using my.

[00:26:04] Male psyche to move too aggressively. I'm going to get rid of this ego. And he taught me that, hey, maybe you should love your ego instead.

[00:26:12] And yes, it. I talked a lot about love. A lot of Buffalo in a beautiful way. I really like him. So if you're into spirituality, go into his YouTube channel, search from Match.com and listen to some of the most viewed ones. So ranked by views. And look at some of the top ones.

[00:26:32] You could argue that.

[00:26:36] So I'm not very fond of Muskaan, I'm not very fond of any of the spiritual teachers. That doesn't resonate well with me. But what I'm seeing is.

[00:26:46] He looks for the positive side of things. So if you would argue that I want to get rid of this ego, that would be like this is a negative part of me. Yeah, but it sounds like. Yeah. But you could also look at it from a positive side. You could address something with a positive perspective and a loving perspective. I think love is also one of these fancy words that I think a lot of people wouldn't resonate with.

[00:27:09] It sounds girly in a sense.

[00:27:13] And I think positive and love are very similar words. It's just they resonate with other people's. I would say personally, I would prefer like how can I look at everything about myself with a positive light? You know, would make it easier for me to grab on to those teachings than in a loving light, because it's, you know. Yeah.

[00:27:37] So this is kind of one of the things that he made me change because I was in the Tony Robbins teachings. Find a way, positive way to look at this. But I was doing it too early. So something was that made me sad happened.

[00:27:53] And I tried to go from sadness to being positive. And I realized, wow, I'm kind of abandoning the one that is being sad here. I think that you you're not understanding here right now. So that's not my point. I see that with what you're referring to here is that you kind of push your way to positive rather than, for me, positive.

[00:28:13] Is the sentiment with love. It's like I want to. I don't want to force myself into being positive. I want to find. A positive approach to this emotional healing approach to this emotion. What I want to get away from personally is the word love, because I think it's it's it's the same as spiritual for me. It's a force, see? Yeah. I'm gonna go with girly. You know, it doesn't really resonate with me to say that either. But I have a harder time to grasp that word. And it puts in the same folder as spiritual, which to me says hippie and. I think that being kind towards things and understanding. For me are looking for a positive angle towards it, so not forcing the positive, but rather looking at it kinder.

[00:29:17] That makes sense.

[00:29:20] I like the word kinder, more than positive. Just kindness would be supportive to any emotion.

[00:29:26] Yeah. And here we probably have different different definitions of a positive means that for me, positive how I'm dealing with something positively is very close to how we deal with something kindly. Mm hmm.

[00:29:40] Yeah, there's this once again, but beneficial to have different teachers for different things because they might be using different language and whatever my perspective of a word is, could be very different from what's your perspective of the word is.

[00:29:54] And that is what I see when I recommend someone like Muskaan to people. So I'm. Many people I recommended him to has giving saying that while this has totally changed my life, like he's my favorite teacher of all, and some people like you have said, I don't understand anything that he's saying because you don't resonate with the language. Yeah. So something I want to do from my YouTube channel, for example, is to take some of the teachings I liked the most with him and then translate the language to more plain English. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's a solid plan. Yeah.

[00:30:28] So let's move on. Let's do that. How about.

[00:30:34] Sex, you've had wrong dollars, but in sex.

[00:30:39] Yeah. Had lots of roles within sex. Well, not lots. One of them says something that is really interesting for me with social media in general is how you can find knowledge that we don't really talk about. So one of them is how to deal with emotions. That's not something that school teaches us. One thing that I've learned a lot about in so in social media's social skills in general, school doesn't really teach that.

[00:31:04] And thirdly, then it's sex and relationships at school doesn't teach them. Unless you have parents who are extremely socially skilled in talking about these things or knowing these things, you're kind of forced to learn it on your own. And it's really hard. So one thing that I've been struggling with my entire life, or at least for my entire adult life, is sex and relationships. And how do I communicate that? How do I express my needs, what's natural, what's not? And one woman who is she's doing a lot of things on social media is called Esther Perel. She has a podcast called Where Cher. Where Should We Begin? I think she's got a couple of TED talks and a lot of things. And she's talking about sex and relationships in an understandable way. And this podcast is real. Real couples therapy sessions where I get to follow a couple in her guidance and then sometimes she just stops the recording and explains what is going on right now. And it's been so valuable year to get an insight in how similar my relationship with Johanna, my fiancee is with so many other couples out there, how much it is to learn from that and to be able to hear those real conversations. And it's been almost like we've been listening a lot to this together. And Johanna. And then we've been pulsing and kind of talking about what we've been hearing. And it's been like. We're in couples therapy together without needing to find a therapist, without needing to put herself in that socially awkward situation. And it just made things a lot easier to do. Yes, she's been very beneficial.

[00:32:55] She's got a lot of speeches. She's been doing books and everything. I really like her and I think it's so good when those teachers have real people on stage. So because then you feel like I'm not alone. Like I'm having these problems. They are having these problems. So many people probably do.

[00:33:12] I think that almost all relationships are very similar to each other. You know, human beings were pretty similar, all of us, even though if we like to think we're unique.

[00:33:21] Almost every episode of her podcast, I felt like, wow, this I can really learn from this or this is very much like me. It doesn't matter if there are problems. Are something completely different than what I'm going through. Because the emotions are the same, the conversations are the same. The things that they learn is the same.

[00:33:44] And I think you and I quite late realized that we like sex and relationships are topic that you can study, learn and improve on. Yeah. And it's so weird that that didn't strike me earlier that no other skill.

[00:33:59] If you haven't trained on it, you know how to do it. But I can't. Can I assume that I'm gonna figure relationships and sex out without having studying it?

[00:34:08] Yeah. Without having a teacher. Without ever reading about it. Without anything. Yeah. I mean, you're never gonna be good at football if you don't practice and someone teach you. Yeah. It's just not gonna happen.

[00:34:25] I have found that I really love talking. So it certainly favors people over this goes away longer than anticipated.

[00:34:33] Let's start wrapping this up a little bit with you. One more teacher you wanted to talk about. What's that?

[00:34:39] Yes, I'm right now learning about filming and cameras and audio and editing and photo shopping and everything that has to do with creativity filmmaking. You thought of faces like Photoshop, Photoshop. Yes.

[00:34:57] And so one guy I found when I started searching for him for those topics is a guy called Peter McKinnon, and he's super charismatic guy has a lot of followers on his YouTube account. Definitely go check him out. And.

[00:35:15] But when I found him, I think it's so fascinating that we're in a time in time and age right now where if I want to learn about filming, I can pretty much find who I believe is the most inspiring teacher on the entire planet and someone that when I watch his videos, I feel like I learn equally much from just observing how he is.

[00:35:37] As I do from what he's saying, yes. And it's such a luxury to be able to choose like that. So in creativity, you have Peter McKinnon. I've been watching a film maker called Math Day Avella. Also have a YouTube channel. He's talking about minimalism, personal development.

[00:35:56] Yes. So.

[00:35:58] You have a couple more so in social skills. Who has inspired you there? He has touched from before.

[00:36:04] Three things we don't learn in school is how to deal with emotions. Social skills and sex and photo and a lot of other things. But these have been, I would say, my three main topics that I wanted to learn from in adult years. And when it comes to social skills, I learned a lot from a YouTube channel called Charisma on Command. And a guy named Charlie Hupert, maybe Helbert not sure how to pronounce that name. And what they're basically doing is that they're taking social concepts and how people interact with each other. And they do short videos, often based on real live examples from celebrities so they can create a video about Tom Hanks and they look for how is Tom Hanks interacting in brief social situations? And they create examples of that that you can learn from. And then Charlie talks in a voiceover about what it is that you can learn here. Why is he doing this? What is the impact of this? And they done a lot of videos. So like Game of Thrones. And what's his name? Taiwan. Nalden Dwarf Lannister. Why is he the best character on the TV show? What is he doing? What is he not doing? And why are some characters failing? And he's been very, very they make it very concrete and specific. What can you learn from this? And. You have learned so many things. One thing pops into my head, which doesn't go well with her Korona Times is to be a toucher in general, like how much it means to just put your hand on the shoulder of someone and be gentle, but be loving with it and how much it means to just laugh at someone's joke. And it's if you're laughing at someone's joke, that means that you're paying them a compliment. You will make them feel good. It's me and my laugh is saying, hey, you're a funny guy. I feel good around you. Lot of these small little things that I picked up that completely changed how I'm interacting with with other people over the last couple of years.

[00:38:09] Yeah. So those little hacks and also he's highlighting a lot of mistakes that is common to do and in social situations and just getting rid of those mistakes we make. Most people, I think, more likable and more harmonious to be around.

[00:38:26] Yeah, definitely. I mean, growing up, I was a pretty lonely child, didn't have many friends, and I always thought that dad was just bad luck. And with all the knowledge I've learned over the last couple of years and I can see all the mistakes. Twelve year old Eric did. And I realized it wasn't bad luck. I was just really bad with people. I did a whole lot of mistakes that I wasn't aware of and. If someone would have taught me that when I was 12, I wouldn't have suffered from being lonely as it is very, very valuable. Channel Charisma and command. Lincoln description of doom. OK, so let's start wrapping this up. Yes. How do you find inspiring people on social media riff on new people? What have you done to find this? Folks, guys, for example, as the latest guys you found.

[00:39:24] That one was mostly from the YouTube search function. I know, I think and he was like top ranked, but I don't know.

[00:39:34] That's.

[00:39:37] A lot of them has kind of been either someone's recommending them, like you said, or it's been to do Tobes recommendation. So it hasn't really I haven't really had a system to find brassed around, basically. Yeah. What do you like? So thinking of it like that, I can see how an episode like this from too personal development nerds would be valuable to someone who's looking for more role models because it has taken me I've been looking for role models since 2013 and I watch YouTube every day to learn things and I take notes and I love you too. But it has taken me a lot of time and I find these people so I don't know, maybe I should look for more podcasts like this one or compilation of good role models. How about you?

[00:40:26] I like the perspective of asking myself what I did in school, teach me that I want to learn and then look for those areas because you're probably not as good in those areas as you could be. And then I would look for those kinds of teachers, like I would look for social skills if I have never practiced social skills. And I'm not born with extremely talented parents, which I believe pretty much no one is. Then I would look for social skills teachers. If I'm not amazingly happy with my sex life and my relationships, I would look for a teacher within that area.

[00:41:02] And yeah, I would probably just start with you to look around for people with high number of use and take it from there.

[00:41:12] I like that approach. And something I want to add to, if you're listening to this and you feel like I'm not so good with people, I don't have so many friends, the people around me that I see are the best.

[00:41:23] But people now are those that started having low awareness of social skills that cost them pain. Then they made a lot of effort into getting better. I see those people being more skilled with people now than the ones I know. That always has been the cool guy in school. That social skill with this came natural for them because they don't they haven't learned how to get better. So they are the same as they were when they were fifteen, twenty two. But the people that sucked, they are the ones that are gonna be the best when they're like 40. So don't give up if you're there.

[00:41:55] And it's actually quite easy. I mean, in a year you make that mistake so many things and it's not your fault if you're not socially skilled. It's not your fault. No one thought your school did. And Tortures decided it and taught you. Teach you. And it's hard, but it's surprisingly easy to learn once you have.

[00:42:17] You know, the right people to learn from probably the most valuable skill out there. He has social skills as you can do anything if you had with people. Don't give up hope. I think that's a good place to wrap up. Yeah. Do you want to do it this time? Yes.

[00:42:33] Do it. Do do do do it.

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[00:43:27] And hey, if you know a role model that you really liked that we have missed. I would like to know because I always look for more new to people. So look for mine or Eric's Instagram. In the description. And let me know because I want to find more people. Good stuff. Yeah. Thanks for today. Thank you for today. Corona about.