Food HACKS – Part 2

Summary

Three years ago Erik’s energy levels were like a roller coaster. When the food reserves crashed, so did his temper and some times he could barely speak unless he got a banana.

What effects does sugar have on your body? What can you replace it with? And what are the main sugar traps around us? How would you feel if you are less sugar? What would the benefits be for you?

Transcript

[00:00:01] Very often I get the question, where do you get all your energy from?

[00:00:09] And every time I get this question, I feel very flattered. I really like being someone who people look at and say, where does he get all this energy from?

[00:00:20] And I believe a big part of where I get my energy from is how I’m eating and. About two, maybe three years ago, I completely changed my diet and a lot of that happened thanks to Yamit. And his research and his to me, crazy ideas who I just applied into my life without really understanding them. We spoke about some of these in the last episode about why I have butter and coconut oil in my coffee and what kind of fats I should avoid and shouldn’t avoid and why I’m not eating for 16 hours per day quite frequently and fasting. Why, that’s good for me. And I didn’t know these things. So if you want, you can go check out that episode and stay will keep digging into habits that I’ve learned are very, very good for entrepreneurs who want to have energy or want to be focused, who want to jump out of bed in the morning and to look good and be smart, be creative. All of that comes from habits and a lot of it comes from food.

[00:01:32] And I’m here with e-mail today. Who was the first person joining me in great dot com and who has been researching this topic a lot and is not a scientist, but he could be a weird scientist in long comic evil genius guy. Very digging and diving deeply into this topic and who I always get inspired by and feel trust towards when he tells me new health things. And today we’ll start we’ll keep exploring these different things. So, Emily, how are you feeling?

[00:02:08] Thank you, Eric. First, I would say that I would call myself a life scientist and side with a disclaimer that I’m not a real scientist.

[00:02:18] Day I feel calm, focused, quite energized, tired in my body, but clear in my head. Had a lot of fun recording the last episode, so I am excited to jump back in.

[00:02:35] And I’m here with Eric Burgmann, who is the founder of Great dot com. He is a serial entrepreneur, a very energized, outgoing social guy, a very good friend of mine, and someone that I would like to see live for a very, very long time and make this project into a monolithic monolith.

[00:02:58] That’s a hard word.

[00:03:00] It’s a big, big, big thing that would stand for a long time, like a pyramid or a great dot com.

[00:03:06] I can see that. Thank you. And this is becoming great podcast. A podcast that we do because we believe that entrepreneurship is the way to make the world a better place. And this is for you who share that vision with us and want to learn more about entrepreneurship and more about making the world a better place. And we do all of our episodes in four different four months, one of which is about great dot com and the project that we’re doing. One of them is about life hacks, health and relationships, all kinds of things that relates to help improve your life. And this is one of those specific episodes. The other two kinds of episodes we do is about me and my journey and stories that I have to tell and that I’ve learned. And the fourth kind is entrepreneurship, how to be a better business man, how to run a company, how to start something, how to be a better leader. And let’s just dive into this episode of Health, because something that I’m very curious of as sugar.

[00:04:13] I know that everyone says that sugar is bad for us. I’ve heard that since the first time I probably understood what sugar was, but I’ve actually no idea why sugar is bad for me. Why? Why is sugar bad for me?

[00:04:29] Well, not everyone is saying. But I remember I was at my grandma’s place and I said, I will only have one cookie, please.

[00:04:39] Of every kind, of course, because I’m a little bit sensitive to sugar. And she said, Oh, no, you poor thing. They got to be such a life disadvantage. So it’s it’s a quite new thing. They are understanding how sugar affects the body.

[00:04:56] That’s interesting. When so when I picture you telling this story, I see 7 year old e-mail sitting there with glasses looking up at my grandmother. Please don’t force feed me cookies. Was that how it happened?

[00:05:12] I was 27, so 20 years later. Back then, I love cookies. My favorite thing ever was when you got a mothering bag. I have no idea what that is called in English. It’s basically a mountain of sugar. And that was my favorite thing. Is it?

[00:05:32] I used to go to McDonald’s and steal. We can go and borrow sugar packages. That was meant for the coffee. I just took two full sugar packages and put them in my pocket. And that became my little snack. Yum, yum, yum, yum. In. And obviously that was really good for me. Yeah, good for your mood. Okay. So in my understanding today, sugar is bad for me even if grandmothers don’t understand it. Even if Eric stealing sugar from McDonald’s don’t really understand it, I still don’t understand why it’s good for me. I’ve just heard it and then I avoid it. Oh, please educate me. Why? What happens when I eat sugar?

[00:06:15] So may I start with what do you think happens? What is your experience of eating sugar compared to when you don’t?

[00:06:24] I don’t know. I haven’t given it much thought. I haven’t felt into it as much. I don’t know. I’ve only heard that your bludge blood sugar goes up or down. I don’t know what that means.

[00:06:36] I personally, I can’t really relate to that. I’m feeling so differently from eating this or that.

[00:06:45] And I think that’s because.

[00:06:49] I a shifts a shift the way I’ve eaten over such a long time that I probably don’t remember what energy level I used to have when I eat more sugar. I can’t. It’s kind of like I imagine it being when you see your kid grow. I don’t have a kid. I can’t say that. But that you don’t you can’t see it yourself because I see it every day. I feel my body everyday. I don’t really feel different from when I use teacher. I used to drink coke everyday and now I don’t. And I can’t say that I’m feeling a difference.

[00:07:21] I’m just I think there is a difference.

[00:07:26] So maybe your parents are here and say what kind of happened in the last two years? Yeah. So we spoke in the last episode about I started to introduce this idea to you when we were on a trip in Africa. And I remember. And I was. Lilibeth making fun up for questioning, Eric for heating the food that it did. And I remember at least at four different occasions where Eric had a blood sugar crash that was so intense that he couldn’t speak to someone. He couldn’t think he was just sitting back in the car. Being super grumpy and say, I need a banana right now. And we had to run a find a gas station to get Erika Banana.

[00:08:07] That makes us. So that’s what happens when a target. Yes. Okay. It take me serious process. No. Why did that happened?

[00:08:16] Okay. So. You have.

[00:08:21] I’m gonna see if I can explain this in a simple way. Imagine you have two gas tanks in your car, one big one that is your fat gas tank. All the fat that is stored on your body. You have probably a month supply of energy there and then you have a small glass to gas tank where that is stored in your muscle and in your liver in the form of glycogen. Let’s call that your blood sugar. So that’s your small tank. And when you eat carbohydrates, when that is present in your system, you only have access to the small tank. And once when you have depleted that and not eaten carbohydrates for a while, you get access to the big tank.

[00:09:03] And if you get out of fuel in the small tank, you will be Eric in the backseat of the car, really needing a banana. Right now.

[00:09:14] Ok. So I’ll see if I can paraphrase this. And teachers back, we have two energy reserves, one, which is whatever food we’ve just eaten, which is stored in our stomach and our liver and one which is the big energy reserve that covers our body in various places with fats and. The fourth version is made for us. We store it there because at some point we might run out of food and we might need it, but it’s not really an easy transition to go from using the fat in the small well, using the energy in this small tank to using it in big tanks. So if we take this to a car analogy and it has two gas tanks, when it runs out in this small tank, it can’t seamlessly jump over to the big tank. It would like to cough a lot and go weirdly and be feeling like a grumpy car until it actually could start accessing the big tank.

[00:10:16] Exactly. The reason. Well, one reason for that is that when you get a big spike of sugar in your blood, your body sends out the hormone that is called insulin. And insulin now takes the sugar from your blood and store it into fat cells. So this is a fat storage hormone. And when that is present in your body, you can’t get access to energy that is in your fat cells.

[00:10:44] Why?

[00:10:46] Because the. To my understanding, and I’m not sure of this, is because the insulin prevents that.

[00:10:54] So if I’m eating sugar, my body starts producing insulin that wants to turn that sugar into a fat reserve. And maybe not being any scientist in this, we can’t access the fat reserves at the same time as we’re trying to produce the fat reserves. Exactly. And that puts us in a situation where energy crashes quickly, because at some points we run out of that energy. We have just eaten, but we’re not able to access the other reserves because we’re in a process where we try to build that reserve rather than access that reserve.

[00:11:33] Exactly. So now you want to counter that by eating more sugar. I need a banana right now. And here we get into a loop of.

[00:11:45] We keep eating sugar often and often often, and this is not a natural thing for us, if we looked at the hunter and gatherer version of humans, we might found some honey here and there. We might found some really delicious sweet fruit. Although that fruit would have had fiber in it. So we were not exposed to his blood sugar spikes that often. And it kind of makes sense, right? You found some fruit in the summer. Your bodies are great with stories on the body for the winter. But now in our society, we’re in a state where the average American drinks half a liter of Coca-Cola each day. So we always have this store for the winter thing going on, which causes the body to release insulin.

[00:12:29] And yes, how much sugar is half a liter? Coca-Cola.

[00:12:36] Um, one colo. Think it’s 10 percent sure. So what’s that? Fifty grand. Fifty grams. So how many bananas would that be? I don’t know the answer to that. Banana has a little bit of fiber in it, depending like if it’s green, it has more fiber.

[00:12:54] And then when it gets yellow or OK, let’s let’s just put that glass of Coca-Cola into perspective of Eric living two thousand years ago in a cave. How long would it take for me living a regular life, do you think? And I realize that this is not some scientific data to eat a total of 50 grams of sugar. Do you think that’s like a month’s supply?

[00:13:23] Well, it’s not only how much you eat, because when you eat if you eat an apple, the apple has fiber in it and a fiber is causing your body to break down to Apple into sugar more slow. She don’t get these crazy spikes, which means that you don’t get as much insulin.

[00:13:39] You know, let’s just simplify it and think of it as sugar and sugar and keep one parameter. Do you think that would take me like a month to get 50 grams of sugar or is it like a week back in the days or what would you think would be a normal?

[00:13:57] I think honey, for example, is pure. It’s almost only sugar. So then they would be 50 milliliters of honey, right?

[00:14:07] Yeah, I’m around probably Eric on the in the cave doesn’t access honey very often. Well, either way, what might might just. First thought of this is that okay, one glass of Coca-Cola could be like one month of quote unquote natural sugar supply. If this were 2000 years ago, they would take a long time to get that amount of sugar.

[00:14:32] Otherwise it would and it wouldn’t have the same effect on your body. Because of the fibers. Yeah. And to have access to ketosis, which is the state where your body’s using fat for energy, you want to probably keep your carbohydrate intake about lowered and maybe 20, 20 to 50 grams a day. So rather there you’re out of that state.

[00:14:57] Ok.

[00:15:01] So no coke to some.

[00:15:03] Well, what happens if you drink coke regularly? Is that you get these blood sugar spices, spikes, followed by insulin spikes regularly. And when you often have a hormone pressand what happens is that your body’s is starting to become immune to it. You have fewer receptors. I think that is due process for this hormone. So you need more and more insulin. To lower your blood sugar and you create something that is called insulin resistance. And this is what diabetes is. You become resistance to your body’s insulin. And now you become sick from sugar.

[00:15:38] Ok, so let me see if I understand this. When I’m eating sugar, my body produces a hormone called insulin that tries to turn the sugar into fast energy reserves that I can store for later. And if I’m eating a lot of sugar a lot of the time, and especially if I’m having like a glass of coke, which is like almost pure sugar, my body produces lots of insulin to deal with that. And when I’m doing this regularly after watching, my body doesn’t really react to the insulin because it’s been producing so much insulin that it’s just really natural. And my body can’t really understand how much insulin it has been creating.

[00:16:24] So after a while, it doesn’t then?

[00:16:30] Well, I’m guessing then the insulin doesn’t properly transform the sugar in too fat anymore. And that’s when we get diabetes.

[00:16:42] To my understanding, I would summarize it like this.

[00:16:47] Ok. I’m not my understanding of diabetes. It’s not that big. But to my understanding, this is the basic mechanism.

[00:16:55] Ok. So sugar will have an impact on my energy level because it will give me quick energy that runs out quickly and it will have an impact on my mood because it gives me quick energy and it runs out quickly. It doesn’t sound like it. That’s bad for my health. It’s more for how I’m feeling, but is it bad for my health as well? Well, diabetes is obviously not a good thing. But other than that.

[00:17:26] So you’re asking for your health.

[00:17:29] Yeah. Like, am I gonna get sicker if I’m eating sugar? Am I going gonna get sick more often? Sure. Why is that?

[00:17:37] Sugar creates a lot of inflammation and inflammation is. Imagine that you you play. What is your favorite sport? Mm hmm.

[00:17:48] I don’t really have a Thai boxing. Thai boxing. Okay. So interesting how I couldn’t find the word tiebreaking because it said play. If every sport I don’t play type boxing, that doesn’t pop up in my head. Okay. So let’s say you fight as Rain Talkbacks. You told me before that you’re scared of this 14 year old kid in Thai boxing. Yeah. Thanks for bringing that up. It’s haunting Heroku nightmares. So let’s say he hits you really hard. So you start bleeding on your arm.

[00:18:14] Yeah, right. Now, when you start bleeding, you start to get old red. And a lot of blood is going to come there and your body will start to heal. The reason it gets red is inflammation. And when that is local and in response to a cut, that is a very good thing. But what happens when we eat something like sugar, for example?

[00:18:35] Let’s stop. There’s inflammation can be a good thing. I only thought that was a bad thing. I’ve only heard that used word being used as a negative thing.

[00:18:43] It’s a good thing when it’s happens locally.

[00:18:46] Okay, so inflammation. What is inflammation?

[00:18:49] It’s a immune system response to heal up wounds, for example.

[00:18:54] Okay, I understand claymation. Is the body reacting to something? It’s not something bad happen to the body. It’s not like inflammation is not a virus or a bacteria. Inflammation is a protection mechanism.

[00:19:07] Exactly. That’s the way I understand it.

[00:19:10] Ok. So when we get cut, our body starts protecting ourselves because we don’t want bacteria and viruses and things that we want to heal. Mm hmm. So, okay. So inflammation is basically our immune system getting armed and ready and prepared for war so we can keep any enemies trying to do something. Okay.

[00:19:35] I’m not 100 percent certain of of this, but to my understanding, this is what is happening. Okay.

[00:19:42] So what I do know is that some inflammation is good for you, but chronic inflammation, whole system inflammation is correlated to most of the diseases that we’re seeing.

[00:19:54] The new diseases that we see in the Western world, like when you see Alzheimer’s and when you say chronic and whole system inflammation, then you mean basically inflammation going on in our entire body all the time. It’s pretty much that our immune system believes that it’s fighting or actually might be fighting constantly, not just to heal a wound, but there is something going on all the time which feels well, I guess that’s a very stressful thing for the body to deal with.

[00:20:22] You could put it like that just as it’s something to do with stress.

[00:20:27] It feels like it’s kind of the same thing. Like when we’re stressed, we’re constantly cautious about, well, the way I envision stress is like we’re constantly just waiting for that tiger to jump and and kill us. But we there is no tigers in today’s society, so we just constantly alert and our bodies never fully relaxed. And that’s a full body kind of thing going on as well.

[00:20:52] Exactly. That is, you have a constant presence of cortisol and other stress hormones in your body. Okay. So I guess it’s a two way street where that leads to inflammation and inflammation leads to stress.

[00:21:05] But I’m not sure it’s kind of similar than in the sense that both stress and inflammation is our body trying to protect us from something which may or may not be there. And it keeps fighting something all the time, which obviously takes a lot of energy from us.

[00:21:22] Exactly. And back in the old days, you would see a lion run away and then relax. You would get a wound, you get inflamed, it heals up, and then it’s gone. Now we have this low level chronic, whole systemic.

[00:21:39] Prescence of this and inflammation is correlated to.

[00:21:45] I think most of the modern diseases that we have, like heart disease, diabetes, Alzheimer’s.

[00:21:54] Cancer as well. I guess everything relates to Kelly. Yeah, for sure, for sure. Okay.

[00:22:00] I’m just having a lower working immune system in general so you get more exposed to most diseases.

[00:22:07] So how does that happen then, how does sugar treat inflammation? What what is it that the body’s trying to fight with sugar?

[00:22:20] That is a very good question, actually. I want to do some research on that by. Exactly. It is causing inflammation. I just know that it does. So I would have to get back to you on that one.

[00:22:31] Okay. Yeah, because that makes it’s interesting to understand that process. But what happens? That what is the body trying to protect ourselves from when sugar then or what does the sugar create? That the body has to protect ourselves from?

[00:22:51] That’s a very interesting question. How sugar is causing inflammation. I would have to research that. One thing that happens with sugar is that you have to intestines in your body. You have a smaller one that is on top and then you have a lower one that is on bottom.

[00:23:06] When you eat something like kale that has a lot of fiber in it that goes through your whole intestines. It has fiber that protects it from being broken down by bacteria into smaller intestine. And it goes all the way to your bigger one where your friendly, nice guy gut bacteria lives and they are getting the food. Sugar has no fiber in it, so it gets digested into small intestine where callup bad bacteria lives. That makes you sick and nothing. No food comes down to the large intestine. We’re good. Cuthbert, Arius and a gut bacteria are very much responsible for your immune system. And 90 percent of our serotonin, which is a hormone that makes us happy, is produced.

[00:24:00] Ok. If we’re eating sugar. We’re basically not feeding our happy bacteria.

[00:24:05] Yes. And the bacteria’s influence the way we think. There’s a constant connection between our brain and our stomach. So if you eat a lot of sugar, those by tierce with creates thoughts in your mind that are saying the following. I want sugar. I am tired. Give me something sweet. Give me something fat. But if you don’t have as many of those bacteria, there would be a stronger voice from the large intestine than is saying I would like a salad.

[00:24:35] Right now that fits nourishing for this system.

[00:24:40] Ok, depending on which parts of our intestines gets food, it will send signals to our brain and we’re basically teaching ourselves what to.

[00:24:55] What to be? What do want to say if we’re eating a lot of sugar? We’re basically feeding the sugar in bacterias and in the intestines and the course natural word is and they become more and more of those ones. So when we then don’t eat sugar, there will be a lot of those bacterias who say we want sugar and that will be a powerful signal to the brain. Yes. And if we instead would have eaten salad, salad, salad, salad, we would have created a lot of salad bacteria in in our colon that would say we want more salad. So you would want to eat more of that. Exactly. And so it’s kind of tricking ourselves into being sugar addicted.

[00:25:35] Yes. Like you said, addicted. It becomes an addiction.

[00:25:39] And not only that, sugar is causing the brain to release a lot of dopamine, which is the motivation hormone. When you have heightened levels of dopamine a lot of the time, because eating a lot of sugar and it’s the same hormone you get from watching porn or taking drugs. Sugar releases dopamine, the same hormone that cocaine is releasing. And when you have a lot of that, often you get less receptors in your brain for dopamine and you need more and more of that to get the same well—being effect. And it becomes an addictive circle, just like cocaine.

[00:26:19] Ok, that’s a whole new loop of things. Let’s see if I can wrap this up, because I’ve never talked as much about sugar in my life.

[00:26:29] And let’s start with.

[00:26:35] I like the analogy of the small in the big tank. I have this big fat reserve. And if we were just running on that reserve all the time, we would stay on this high level of energy, probably in a good mood for a long time. But instead, we’re running if we’re eating sugar or carbohydrates, we’re running on a small tank which will run dry. And as soon as it’s run dry, we feel a big need of filling it. Otherwise, we we crush in our energy or get grumpy or anything else, which was a lot like me in 2016. We also learned that sugar causes diabetes, and what happens then is that we have eaten too much sugar over too long time and we’ve created insulin, which is the hormone that takes sugar and turns it into fat. And after a while, our bodies today created so much insulin that we kind of stopped being able to turn sugar into fat or we kind of get immune to that reaction.

[00:27:37] And that’s just really bad for us.

[00:27:40] And we also learned that there is tons and tons of sugar in soda and we drink a lot of soda. And we learned that we learned that sugar causes inflammation.

[00:27:57] Didn’t learn how, though, but we learned that it’s cause inflammation and that inflammation is basically our body getting into fight or flight mode, kind of where all of our cells are kind of fighting or preparing to fight, which drains off as energy reduces our immune system, which will end up as being able to do less things and being sick more often. So all in all, sugar is just really bad for us. So let’s say we want to avoid sugar. How what are like the most common sugar traps? Soda. We said anything else?

[00:28:38] Well, if you go to an American supermarket, you will find sugar in most products there. It’s hidden in ketchup, is sitting in tomato sauce. It’s hitting in yogurt.

[00:28:49] It’s hitting in a lot of products have added sugar in it. So read the back of the package. Watch out for things that are processed. Look at how much someone has been messing with your food. And when you say missing, what do you mean processing it? OK.

[00:29:08] So the more the more things that it’s been through, the more machines you imagine being part of this, the more likely it is that they have added sugar. Yes, exactly. And then they add sugar to things because it makes it taste sweeter. It makes it feed these sugar bacteria that you already have. So it makes us more. One thing that thing more because of the sugar. And it creates an addictive loop that makes us want to buy more of that. Catch up, for example, example.

[00:29:39] Exactly.

[00:29:42] Ok. So we want to stay away from things that Ben, too, through through too many different steps that we imagine. I can just picture myself things that I’ve eaten a lot in my life where I didn’t I wouldn’t have thought about it. Having a lot of sugar would be yogurt. Just you mentioned that. That’s probably a lot of sugar in yogurt.

[00:30:01] Morning. And then Coca-Cola, some joggers.

[00:30:03] Wow. And milk gets quite a lot of sugar in milk, right? Is that good or bad sugar then?

[00:30:09] 5 percent of the sugar in milk. It’s the same sugar.

[00:30:15] Ok.

[00:30:17] So is there some other eye candy? Obviously, that’s a given one. Juice. That’s a lot of sugar, right?

[00:30:24] That’s pure sugar. It’s the same as Coca-Cola.

[00:30:27] So it’s easy to think that orange issues is good for you because it’s oranges, but it’s actually just pure sugar.

[00:30:33] Yeah. Because if you are eating those oranges in its natural state, you would maybe have to eat six oranges to get one glass of orange juice. And that takes quite a bit of time to do. And then you would have the fibers in there that would cause it to raise the blood sugar slowly slower.

[00:30:51] Yeah, so stay away from. Well, maybe it’s easier to say drink more water than it is to say drink less cocaine or issues, cause I think that if you’re just having water with your food, you’re simply not going to drink coke or issues with your food.

[00:31:09] Personally, I think it’s easier to say do more of this than it is to say do less of this. And that is easier to create a new habit that kind of really replaces the habit than it is to just try to stop drinking coke, for example.

[00:31:24] I agree with that for sure.

[00:31:31] Ok, so today we learned sugar is bad for you and drink more water. Anything else you want to add to this?

[00:31:39] Yes. So you used the metaphor in the beginning of this big tank and a small tank. And we’ve been talking in the previous episode about getting into ketosis, a state where your body’s using fat for fuel. There are a lot of societies like the OCU wah-wah people in Japan and all of this soon’s around the world where people live very long lives. The blue zones, blue. Yeah. I don’t want to use a concern that people might not be familiar to. So the people in Okinawa, I can’t pronounce that.

[00:32:12] Ok, well, always an island in Thailand, right?

[00:32:14] But they don’t eat a lot of fat red that they eat like 8 percent fat, but they also don’t eat any food that is processed or is cost the blood sugar to go up quick sushi, eat beans, for example, vegetable. Yes, there are carbs in it, but it won’t spike the blood sugar. So that is the port and thing to stay away from. Don’t eat things that is causing blood sugar var. your mood would be more stable. You will have better energy and you will avoid a lot of problems later on.

[00:32:45] And food that impacts your blood sugar is mainly the processed things that have a lot of sugar in them. Yes. Or choose, for example, which is basically just taking all the sugar out of the war interests and turned it into a drink, taking all the fiber out of it.

[00:33:01] Yes. Yes.

[00:33:04] Ok.

[00:33:05] I get a better understanding of why people ask me, where do you get all your energy from, Eric? Well, it’s facts. I don’t drink juice much. I don’t drink Coke much anymore. I used to drink a lot. So if the average American drank half a liter of coke every day, I think I’d beat average American a couple of years ago. I think I had like very often I had one liter of coke in a day, very often. And my breakfast was usually slice of bread with a thick layer of peanut butter, thick letter of Nutella and bananas. That’s a lot of sugar, too.

[00:33:41] That’s a lot of sugar. And I wonder why I was grumpy and the fact that it’s in the peanuts. We talked about eating Bulat coffee before getting healthy fats in there. But if you eat them together with sugar.

[00:33:54] That will cost at fat to be stored in your fat cells and you will gain weight without seeing a whole new low.

[00:34:01] Let’s just do that in another. Yeah. You want to add something real quick. Otherwise, I’ll start summing up.

[00:34:11] I feel finished with this sugar dialogue.

[00:34:13] Great. Then just leave it at that. So we’re doing this podcast because we believe that entrepreneurship is the way to make the world a better place. And part of that is health. A reason why I can do a lot of things is that I’m eating very well. And that’s why we did this episode. And we will build a community of people who wants to make a world a better place through entrepreneurship.

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[00:35:28] I want to add one thing I really want to say, and it’s a sweet thing that is bringing me a lot of happiness.

[00:35:36] And that is the thought of removing all sweet things altogether might seem depressing. So something I have found out in the last two years is that there are different kinds of sweeteners that is actually seems almost too good to be true. I’m a little bit skeptical about aspartame and the stuff that is things cola zero, but there are things like Silje at all and Arita role and what those things are is basically fermented fruit and birch syrup. So the sugar has been turned into a sugar. Alcohol which has sera calories is good for your teeth. It doesn’t raise the blood sugar at all and it’s sweeter than sugar. And to me, it tastes kind of similar. So if you want to bake or you want to get some sweet in your diet, but you don’t want to raise the blood sugar, I think those are very, very good option. You said don’t remove stuff, replace it. Yes.

[00:36:32] Take the sugar you’re eating and replace it with Arita roll or at all. And you make a very good tradeoff.

[00:36:41] And the best ways to find them is probably Google replacements for sugar and then tried to find these words because they’re really hard to spell. Yes, I wrote her all a sale at all. You can buy them in most big supermarkets. Heinz, thank you for this email. I learned a lot about food that I didn’t know before. This was fun. See you next week. Cheers.