#56 – 6 POWERFUL HABITS you probably haven’t tried

We have realised that we are addicted to creating habits. We think outside of the box and we look for ways to live our lives with constant small improvements, different from most people.


We have realised that we are addicted to creating habits. We think outside of the box and we look for ways to live our lives with constant small improvements, different from most people.

Most of these habits are pretty shitty and don’t stick, but some do! Then we keep building on them. This is a personal development episode for you who want to build success.

**SPOILER** If you want to be surprised of which our surprising habits are, don’t keep reading 🙂 The habits that we have built are:

– Self-reflection, and why that is so important.

– Absurdly regular eating and sleeping patterns, and what impact that has on decision making and creativity.

– Acting like a dog, and how humans life can be better if they are more doglike.

– The secret memory app that creates an eternal memory just by using it 10 minutes per day. It takes a lot of work to get started, but once you do, it’s a revolution.

– The most simple food hacks, that can easily change your diet without taking up much of your time or thought processes.

– Sobriety, why not drinking might be the best decision you have taken and how to be brave enough to do it.


[00:00:01] I get a feeling of such genuine joy whenever I introduce a new habit into my life. I compare to contain myself from last year because it’s so true. If I figure out something that will just make my life 0.1 percent better, a new way of eating, a new way of working out, a new way of structuring my day, I can go for days feeling deeply.

[00:00:28] And I’m here with the founder of great dot com, Erik Bergman, a man that I know has similar personality traits. Hi, Erik.

[00:00:38] Hello, my good friend. It’s good to be here and I can totally relate.

[00:00:43] So, yeah, I could I would put myself in the folder of addicted to creating habits and I can feel myself giggling is thinking about how wonderful habits can be. It sounds like the most boring.

[00:01:02] Yeah. Yeah, I’m.

[00:01:05] Thank you. I’m good. And I’m here with my good friend Emma and the host of this podcast. Who was the first one to join me in? Great.

[00:01:14] And we’re here to talk about habits. How are you today? My good friend.

[00:01:19] I feel wonderful. I fear actually, because my habits are so much in order right now, I feel more balanced than I have felt in many years.

[00:01:28] So for you listening, this is going to be a pretty straightforward and fast paced episode where me and Erik go through some habits that we feel really benefit our lives. So, hey, I feel ready to get started in some surprising habits.

[00:01:44] I think that’s worth mentioning.

[00:01:46] There’s surprising how it’s not the obvious habits that people talk about in powerful habits in general. It’s like a weird little habits that still make a big difference.

[00:01:57] Yeah. That is a valuable distinction.

[00:02:02] See what I did? Uh-Huh. So you’re ready to get going. Threw me in there.

[00:02:08] Erik, give me a habit that you do that maybe most people don’t, but you really fail is benefiting your life.

[00:02:18] So the habit that I’ve realized quite recently that I’m doing a lot and I’m not sure if I used to do it, I’ve always done it. It’s not like it’s something that I’ve deliberately put into my routine. It’s just something that I realize that I do a lot. And that’s self-reflection. I find myself a lot is thinking about what has happened today. What did I do in that conversation? How did I talk to my fiancee about this thing and just reflect reflecting, OK, what did I do? Why did I do it? What was my intention behind it? And what was the effect? And just stopping to think a lot about these things and feel and learn from them.

[00:03:00] Can we slow down a little bit? No. Because. No. No. Cause I want to get this clear, because self-reflection. We’re talking about surprising habits. Right. And self-reflection, I think, is something that many people do. So you’re not but you’re not saying that your. Doing it at a special time of the day or anything like that. You’re saying that you are self reflecting in a way that is maybe a little bit different. And you said a couple of things. Is it? I think. What is your. Yeah. Go ask the question. So I guess you have a habit for how you self-reflect. So what is the structure you have for self-reflection?

[00:03:38] I’m not sure if I have a habit for how I do it.

[00:03:41] Actually, more that I try to do it every time something.

[00:03:48] Something intense have happened either good or bad. It’s more often when it’s bad, I’d say. But it’s also I think one thing that’s changed a lot is that I have more time today where I don’t have any input. And what I mean by that is I spend more time walking or running without podcasts or music or anything, my ears. And that gives my brain time to wander more and it wanders more to what has been going on lately and how it could have done that differently. So I don’t have a habit of every evening writing a journal and see what has happened, what could have done better, which probably is a great habit to have, but more to create space in my everyday life where I’m not really doing anything. Preferrably walking. I like walking and just letting my brain wander and see how did I interact with this. And I’ve also realized that I’ve become a lot more pressand in everyday life moments like when something has happened. I get more aware of my intention behind it. What’s happening now? Why am I feeling like this?

[00:04:57] And. Constantly adapting to Dutch. All right.

[00:05:03] I think this is a very important habit to have.

[00:05:06] And you say that the habit you have is when something happens that feels a little bit off. Maybe you didn’t like how you acted. Maybe someone said something and you feel an uncomfortable feeling in your body and you don’t really know why. And you have an hour to spare to go to the gym or run or whatever it is. So the habit is to instead of listening to a podcast there or calling a friend, you spend that time doing nothing.

[00:05:34] So your brain can process it.

[00:05:37] And it’s it’s come out of nowhere. I haven’t intentionally started to reflect more. I might have reflected on my life. I haven’t thought about it before, but I’m thinking a lot more about it now than I did previously.

[00:05:52] Yeah, I can totally relate. And I have increased that amount in my life recently. Yesterday, for example, I was done working at 9:00 in the evening. I did some different projects and then I spent one hour is laying in the couch looking at the ceiling. And I know me three years ago would have watched a serious or something like that. And there’s nothing wrong with that at all. And at the same time, I feel like introducing time of doing nothing is super beneficial to increase self-awareness.

[00:06:27] So you can say that parts of the habit is self reflection and the tool for that self-reflection is.

[00:06:35] Well.

[00:06:37] Time spent without activities and I prefer walking to lying on the couch. But there’s just time for the brain that you don’t have things going into it, so you can actually start sorting the things that’s happened, right?

[00:06:51] So instead of self-reflection, we could call this habit making time for doing nothing at all like that or no input time.

[00:07:01] No input time.

[00:07:02] Yeah, I like that better because you can do things, but it’s just important that you don’t feed your brain with a lot of stuff at that time.

[00:07:09] Yeah.

[00:07:11] So let’s go to you.

[00:07:12] I mean, what’s what’s been one of your unnecessary have unnecessary, unexpected, unexpected habits or if you want to share it. So there you have it.

[00:07:23] I never heard such an insult. Okay. So we’re obviously not going to agree on this one. And Erik is doing a Freudian slip right now. I have no idea what a Freudian slip, Freudian slip is when you say something because you subconsciously have an opinion, but it’s like leaking out.

[00:07:45] Okay. So some disagreement coming up, but also a habit that I haven’t implemented yet that I have tried to implement for a long time that I’m struggling with.

[00:07:55] But I’m now making progress. And that is why I’m so excited about it. And why I want to share it now is to have absurdly irregular patterns of eating, working out and sleeping, meaning that I scheduled my time. So I do eating, training, sleeping pretty much the same time every day, including weekends.

[00:08:20] And one of those times.

[00:08:23] Some my structure right now is that I’m also playing around with a shorter eating window. So right now I’m eating for about five hours of the day. So 12:30 every day. And this, of course, is difficult to do if you work in an office. But if you’re an entrepreneur, you have more control over your time. It becomes more doable. So 12:30, I go to the gym or play paddle or whatever I do every day I come home, I make lunch that is finished around 2:30 and then I eat for half an hour.

[00:08:55] Really? You are not worried about round? If you’re a super specific, I’m not sure you can call it absurdly regular if you have the word.

[00:09:02] Okay. Just kidding. You know that. You know the character bombs start on international. Their actual it’s a serious issue. Very kind. Bare.

[00:09:11] Okay. So there’s a character there. He’s a turtle. Yes. Watch whatever it rings for sleep. He’s always sleeping no matter where is. So I have a there is an ideal world. And in the ideal world, things are perfect and in perfect timing. And then in this dirty word world with humans, emotions, things happening, things become a little bit different all the time. Right.

[00:09:36] So in the perfect in the ideal world, I go to a gym. 12:30. I eat 2:30. I rest until 4:00. And then I start the second half of my day.

[00:09:45] So you work in the morning between 8 and 12ish and then you work after 4 a.m. to whenever.

[00:09:52] Exactly. And then I had my second meal at seven. So seven to eight to have a one hour rest again. And then I have to three hours before I go to bed where I do like household upkeep. Some minor tasks. I get quite creative in the evening as well.

[00:10:09] And what’s what benefits have you seen from this?

[00:10:12] Well, for starters, I feel like I’m doing this for.

[00:10:18] It’s not Byner been ramping up this effect for two months now, but the last two, three weeks of my life. I never had this much energy and I never felt this creative.

[00:10:33] It’s a quite substantial difference between how.

[00:10:39] My previous routines that were I was working out late in the evening eating super late before bed. So I think my. Sleep patterns are much better and I’m fasting more and. I make less decisions throughout my day, so if I don’t have to think about should I train now at lunch or that evening, when should I eat? Because I’ve put these things in my calendar. Right. So no one can book in time with me between 12:30 and 4:00. So that is freeing up my mind, having less decisions, which I feel it leads to more energy and more creativity.

[00:11:16] Makes sense.

[00:11:18] So we’ll do a revisit to this habit six months from now and see if you keep it.

[00:11:24] Yeah, for sure. It might be so.

[00:11:27] Not all habits are winner. Me and her. I try to meet diet last year. Didn’t work at all like it sounded good before.

[00:11:36] Didn’t work at all. Have you done a habit that you tried to do that was failing miserably?

[00:11:43] Any habit? I’ve tried lots of habits that I’ve tried to do that failing miserably. One is that I’ve been wanting to learn speed reading for a very long time. So it had in my calendar every day for like two years about practice, speed reading and. Yes, right.

[00:12:00] It’s a really good thing in theory. I would love to be able to read a thousand pages an hour.

[00:12:05] I just don’t know at this highlights as well that creating a lot of life where you have a lot of good habits requires a lifestyle where you try to implement a lot of habits that are going to be shit.

[00:12:19] I thought this might be a horrible idea that I can’t stick to at all, but I do believe in the idea.

[00:12:26] I have a habit of failing habits. I have a habit of succeeding with someone as well. Some of them stick. But the vast majority probably don’t. Let’s move on.

[00:12:36] Let’s move on. So what is the second habit that the surprising habit?

[00:12:39] This is probably the most surprising habit of them all is acting like a dog. So what does that really mean? Okay. This comes from a book and a fun post today. I saw on Facebook once and basically describing dogs as the most happy and loved creatures on the planet because dogs give a lot of love to everyone. They see they are a lot in their emotions. They don’t overthink or over analyze bad things, you just going with it. And whenever they’re meeting someone, they’re just throwing themselves at them with with love and welcoming energy. And when I first realized this, when I read this like, huh, that makes a lot of sense. Everyone loves dogs for pretty much no other reason than that they share love in.

[00:13:36] They’re super playful as well. Yeah, they’re super playful, super curious.

[00:13:41] It’s like the take on life with the same energy as a six year old kind of. They go smell everything, touch everything, play with everything.

[00:13:49] And I’ve gotten into the habit of. Often asking myself, what would a dog do? And then I go with that one thing that I apply this on is whenever someone comes to our house to visit. I try to I rung to meet them at the door.

[00:14:07] I jump excitedly and sometimes I scare people’s babies when they bring their babies because you’re not supposed to jump on people. But everyone loves, everyone smiles. Everyone is having fun with it. Unless they’re a teeny tiny child. Get scared and I get excited. But it’s just getting into the habit of thinking. What would a dog do? And then just do it as improve my life dramatically.

[00:14:31] There’s a funny thing I’ve learned from you that you are that you don’t know. And that is when you open a door, you’re sticking your head out of the door. Yeah. And I realize that how someone opens a door is a it’s an indicator of how introverted or extroverted is the person. So you were one of the most extroverted people I know. So your head is a lot outside of the door when you open it. So somewhat I would open a door and then take four steps back. That would be a super introverted person.

[00:15:04] But for me, that comes from the dog practice. That’s not something I used to do. That’s something I’m doing. My dog would do that. You think an extrovert. An extrovert, a dog? For sure. Most of them are.

[00:15:16] That’s my second habit. Acting like a dog in the best kind of way. What’s your second?

[00:15:23] My second habit is a super secret computer software that allows my memory to be 10 times more reliable.

[00:15:32] Is NASA okay with you revealing the secrets?

[00:15:36] I am NASA. You are NASA. You’re smart, you don’t make any secret NASA. OK. Tell us about tell us it is eternal memory software.

[00:15:47] So before I started working at Great, I was working as a professional poker player for seven, 10 years. Something like that.

[00:15:57] And the biggest mistake that I ever did as a poker player was to forget things. And but that I meant that me and the friends that I was studying to become better, we spent maybe a hour. Analyzing. Doing math on how to play perfectly in a specific poker hand so that the next time that situation comes around, we know what to do. So now we spend all this time doing the math. But then maybe this was a quite rare situation that isn’t happening that often. So. It happened again. But maybe a month, two months later. And then I had forgotten all the mats that I had done, so that time was just useless. I don’t know how many hours of trying to get better that I just wasted because things were not repeated before they happened again.

[00:16:52] So you could say that that would basically be like learning a word for your Spanish class or whatever, but it’s a rare word. You just learn it once and then you forget about it until you need to use it. The next time you go look it up. Three months again later and then you don’t remember it and you go do it again three months later instead of like actively studying it the first time. So you remember it.

[00:17:14] Exactly. So if you don’t remember that word three months later, it’s not going to be useful to you. And I think we’re discoms most in hand is in life situations. You talked about reflection earlier. Yeah. So let’s say something happens and you act in a way that you don’t prefer to do. Do you reflect upon that and say, oh, next time, I’m definitely gonna do this instead? Yeah. And then a similar situation doesn’t happen for another year. And then after that, the year has passed, you’re in the same situation. And lo and behold, you act like a jackass once again.

[00:17:48] Man, I was thinking about that one year ago. Yeah. But you didn’t remember because you were not repeating it in between.

[00:17:55] So to me, repetition is the mother of all learning. Maybe that’s a Swedish expression and you get it. It’s repetitive petition is important for learning.

[00:18:07] I love that you say to me the repetition is the mother of all learning. And then maybe that’s a switch expression. Maybe it didn’t come up with myself. Yeah, I hold that suspect still. Some smart person said that.

[00:18:19] Yes.

[00:18:21] So what this software what you do is when you reflect, which is a good habit like we’ve talked about, you write down what your conclusion is. My principalists next time this happened, I’m gonna do this instead. You put this into the software that you then have on your phone, which makes you and then it comes up as flashcards and you repeat what you have learned in intervals so you don’t forget it until the next time it happens. So every day it’s an ATLA. It’s an app. Everything I learn, if it’s our word I didn’t know in English if it’s a the capital of a country I wasn’t aware of. If it is a life lesson, if it is something I learned on YouTube, I take a screenshot of the image and put it into the software. Sounds like a lot of work. It is a lot of work. So this means that I’m learning new things slower, but my education or the rate at which I gain awareness to me is speeding up because I don’t forget things that I have learned before. So if I read a book, I will remember the important things from that book five years later, 10 years later, because I repeat it all the time, like. Because I look at my bookshelf back here and I have a lot of books there. I couldn’t point out anything specific from.

[00:19:44] Most of them, because I have a vague idea for that book, tried to communicate, but I don’t know any facts. I don’t know any numbers. I don’t remember any specific things that were said in that book.

[00:19:57] Yeah. So this is this is complicated. I’m trying to kind of compartmentalize this in a way where it’s easy to explain and I’m using this app as well. And it’s it’s really complex, but it creates an internal memory. And what what I’m hearing from him and here it’s like he is using this book to open this up, to take down notes when he reads the books, whatever was important from this book. What is the key insights that matter the most? And he puts it into this app. And this app helps him to regularly study this like once a week in the beginning and then once a month and then once every year just reading through the notes from this this book. And what the app does is it reminds you to look at the notes pretty much.

[00:20:48] Almost, I think a big upgrade from that is that I’m not always rereading what I learned. I’m constantly testing me if I remember what I’ve learned. So in the app, I don’t put information. I put questions, OK. For example.

[00:21:05] And answers.

[00:21:07] Exactly. So on one side of the card is which year was the Great Depression in the US? Yes, I cite various example. And on on the backside I have the answer. So if I know it, I pass and that card gets repeated again in the future. If I don’t. It gets repeated tomorrow. So I’m not reading my notes. I’m testing myself if I remember the life lesson or the information. And that’s the key to memory. It’s two. The answer needs to come from within. Not something you read for you to read or remember.

[00:21:38] And what’s the name of the software? This app, Ankie Ankie, a N.K., I just.

[00:21:45] And I’m sure we will have full episodes on this later. I would definitely make YouTube videos about this because I think it’s so important. And the final thing is you put images in there, your brain, remember images so much more than text or speech. Yeah.

[00:22:00] Is the way when I talk about Ankie is usually saying that, OK. This is a really hard way. This takes a lot of work, but it creates an eternal memory that is revolutionizing how well you can remember anything. And it’s so much speeded up my personal development. So Ankie flashcards and we’ve been used. I probably used it on average five minutes per day for the past two or three years. Something like that said basically as reminding myself of things that have mattered on average five minutes per day.

[00:22:33] Yeah.

[00:22:33] Anything. Come on, 12 minutes a day. And that is the amount of minutes that I spend on the toilet per day. So that is I remind myself of the important stuff in my life. Instead of time I would spend browsing to Instagram probably. Yeah. So that is a big upgrade. An upgrade in habits.

[00:22:51] Yeah.

[00:22:52] Yeah. It’s an amazing habit. It takes effort. But if you want to be a bad ass, then I can highly recommend it.

[00:23:00] I agree. I felt ready to move on. Let’s do that. So just Max. Just Max. Just like number three.

[00:23:07] Bom bom bom bom bom bom. The scats man should be beating them. Oh, yeah.

[00:23:12] I was gonna go into singing mood. So my habits. Number three, this is probably the habit I’m trying to get most other people to do because I’m ridiculously annoyingly proud of it.

[00:23:25] And it’s smoothies. I love smoothies. I’m a person who. If I could eat a pill every day and that didn’t require me to think anything more about food, I probably would. I think about food as medicine is something I require more than this eternal joy of life that other people might think about food. So what I’ve been doing in my life is how can I create a simple meal that is super healthy and it takes very little time to prepare and tastes good enough. So I’m not trying to sell this smoothie as the best tasting thing you’ve ever experienced, but the ratio between how good it tastes, how good it is for me and how long it takes to prepare is ridiculously good. It ranks really high on these things. And I think that if you are building healthy food diets, I believe that there are probably four things that are the most important thing to make sure that you keep this habit. First thing is that it needs to taste decently good. The better taste, the easier it is. It needs to be easy to prepare. The easier it is to prepare, the easier it is to keep that habit. It needs to be good for you, because if you’re creating a shitty habit, it doesn’t really make sense and it needs to be pretty cheap. This smoothie is actually quite expensive. I would say. But if you take those four boxes, I think it’s quite easy to create a good habit and you’re replacing a meal with it. Yes. I’m replacing a meal, some having a smoothie.

[00:24:59] At least six days per week. Almost seven, I would say the same smoothie every day. And I prepared this. I have bags in the freezer with everything in them. So I do smoothie bags once every three weeks or something. I prepared twenty bags and put them in the freezer and then just put a bag in the blender with water and go for it. And this smoothie is the foundation is half a banana, half an avocado, hundred grams of raspberries, hundred grams of blueberries, spinach and broccoli, all of it frozen. And then I’m adding ginger and turmeric and a lot of different superfood powders like spirulina, moringa, cinnamon. Pretty much everything that I can come up with that sounds healthy in the in the store. It probably is a better way of making the smoothie, especially with those super powders and things. But this takes pretty much everything. And I have either olive oil or coconut oil in it as well to get some healthy fats. And I’m replacing one meal every day with this. And I think that if you want to apply a healthy eating habit. Changing your breakfast or whatever the first meal of your day is, if you’re eating breakfast is the easiest way of doing it because it doesn’t. Most people I would say eat the same breakfast every day, but if you’re changing. Most people would not eat the same dinner every day. So it’s quite easy to change the breakfast or change any meal into a smoothie.

[00:26:34] And I believe that if if I could only eat one meal a day and I ate that smoothie, I would probably be in pretty good shape for a very long time.

[00:26:44] And it would covers most of my needs. So, yeah, that’s my habit.

[00:26:49] Number three. Dum dum dum dum dum. So as a total health nerd, there are two things I really like about this, that there are many things more than two, but two things sticks out. First is I totally like the ingredients you have there. I think it’s very close to what I would see as the optimal all around smoothie.

[00:27:10] And secondly, I think for someone who’s tried trying to eat healthier, I think it’s. My experience is that it’s maybe the most important thing is to remove the first decisions.

[00:27:25] Like remove maybe a meal where we have a lot of sugar or we have a lot of fried stuff. And if you can take one meal and take away the decision making process, that means that you basically have only one meal to fuck up. Yeah. That’s why I like to remove the breakfast. And people say, but breakfast is the most important thing you left today. Yes. It’s the most important meal of the day. To not do something stupid, because if you do, you’re gonna have cravings for more stupid things. I don’t like to make stupid unhealthy because then you’re going to have cravings for more unhealthy things. They drown doing today.

[00:27:57] Yeah, that’s very true. So if you start by eating sugar in the morning, it’s more more likely that you would want more sugar during the day.

[00:28:05] Exactly. So you are not eating breakfast that often. And you’re eating this smoothie for lunch, which means that there’s only one meal where you make unhealthy decisions. And by that time, you won’t have a lot of sugar cravings or other things.

[00:28:19] And probably if I had pizza every night and I had that smoothie, every lunch, for example, I would still deal pretty decently with life.

[00:28:28] Yeah, because your body get a lot of time to recover in between those meals. So I really like it.

[00:28:33] Smoothies for life. Come on in and give me your third one.

[00:28:38] Ok, so the habit that I have implemented that I think can have the most positive effect on my life is that I am completely sober from alcohol and from anything.

[00:28:52] And I’ve been that for some three years now.

[00:28:57] Meaning what way has that been good for you?

[00:29:02] Let’s start in another direction. How did your life look before that?

[00:29:06] So before I was not drinking a lot, but I was having a couple of glasses when I was going out and once in a while I was smoking weed like maybe once every two week on some periods, maybe once per week. And the fact that I had is that I really felt like the weed was slowing me down, like how I just became less motivated. And I became. A bit dependent on that substance to relax, and when I was going out, I felt like the alcohol is not really. I feel the side effects much more than I feel the good effects. Okay.

[00:29:50] So I would start sleeping much worse. Like whenever I was drinking, if I came home at 3:00, I would wake up at 7 and feel super shaded from the lack of sleep. And but I would say the most beneficial effect I’ve had from it is that. It has made me better socially. And it had made me more aware of my emotions because if I go out and I’m maybe pushing my comfort zone, being being social or I’m talking to strangers or I’m talking to women, that creates an uncomfortable feeling in my body. And alcohol is, say, an aesthetic, if that’s the right word. Yeah, it’s yeah. It’s numbing it. So by not numbing my sensations, I become more aware of them. I become more comfortable with them. And it really makes me grow as a person in my space to you.

[00:30:41] Let’s say you’re going up to some woman in a bar somewhere. You feel more uncomfortable, which is the reason why drinking would make you less uncomfortable. But you actually feel the benefits of feeling the uncomfortable feelings. Could that invites you to grow as a person and being more okay with feeling those feelings as well? Because you have felt them more for sure.

[00:31:02] They become less scary because you get used to them. Exactly. Right now I wouldn’t go up to a woman in a bar because I’m dating the most beautiful woman I have ever seen that I’m so deeply in love with. And she’s also sober. And when we met, that was at a club in the night. I was completely sober. She was also sober. We hang out until 3:00 in the morning. She went home. I went home. And the next day we met each other again at a beach in Stockholm where I live. And. It’s such a good start of meeting someone that I’m exactly the same, like I have this personality when I’m go out, have this personality when I’m meeting someone on a day to have this, I did it. Would you have to? I’m me.

[00:31:45] And that’s a very good point. It’s like if you’re meeting someone in a bar and you have altered your personality with drugs or alcohol and then you meet someone else, the same person, two days later, soberly, you’re not going to be the same person.

[00:32:00] And yet it creates confidence to be sober all the time. And also, it frees up my mind for always, because when I was drinking, I was always a thought in my head. That said, I could feel a little bit better right now. And a quick way to do it is to alter me.

[00:32:14] Yeah.

[00:32:16] It becomes a shortcut, and whenever you get used to taking the shortcuts, you’re not doing the work or growing. And if you’re doing if you’re drinking alcohol, then over a lifespan where you all instead of finding healthy ways to get good feelings, you find unhealthy shortcuts and over time that you don’t ever really learn to get to the healthy place. Well, the happy place without it.

[00:32:43] Exactly. I’m super consistent with meditation, with reflection. Things like that. Cause that’s so necessary for me to feel good sober. I like that.

[00:32:53] I like that way of looking at it. Sure. Alcohol can make you feel good in the moment. But if you drink this year, you’re not going to learn the skills that would make you feel good in the moment. A year from now anyway. So you’re kind of always taking a shortcut. Exactly. Like that way of thinking about it. So it becomes a very important personal development tool. Because, I mean, we’re having negative feelings for a reason and they’re usually good for us one way or another, and they’re showing us that this is something that would be good for us to work on. For example, if if we find that it’s scary to go up and talk to two women, it’s probably a very good skill to learn because it can help us in so many places of life.

[00:33:38] For sure, for sure. And I had a lot of fears before I started this. I was afraid. What are my friends going to think of me? Yeah, that’s a very unpleasant aspect of this. Yeah. Did they? No. I thought every time I go out, people are gonna be. Oh, why? You’re not drinking all. You’re boring. You’re not participating with us. But it was such an anticlimax because no one said anything. Okay. You do your thing.

[00:34:04] Do you think it would have been the same if you were 20?

[00:34:09] I’m not sure, actually maybe that would have some friends would have created more pressure. But now I think people don’t care as much about us as we might think.

[00:34:21] It’s partly true and especially and I think it depends on which energy are going inward. So what I was. The second thing I was afraid of is that I would become boring and that I would stop going out and that I would stop being social.

[00:34:35] And that didn’t happen.

[00:34:38] I am actually going out more, I think, because I’m sober, because they are not as many consequences of me doing it. I can still do the same thing the next day. I still get good sleep and stuff. And when I’m out, I get my positive emotions from being social and talking with people. And you get the right ending at a bar drinking. And I drive to the club when I go out. Everything is much cheaper.

[00:35:02] Yeah. Everything is cheaper, so yeah. So I find that I’m actually more fun to be with when I’m out because I’m always clear I’m asking good questions, some superintend yardstick because I have to be otherwise I get bored.

[00:35:16] People around me say that, OK, it’s actually not boring. You kind of have to be like a dork. You have to be enthusiastic. Right. Be like a dog when you’re out and prove to people that you’re not boring. Yeah. Go up and hump them on their legs. That’s exactly right. So really hump people on their legs.

[00:35:33] That’s a good way. I’ve got to be in a bar. Good Hatten.

[00:35:36] Good to have it. All right. I feel.

[00:35:41] Done. I feel like this was fun to talk about. I like habits.

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